rick perry is seeking reelection. he has been in office since 2001. it has been more than 20 years since texas elected a democrat, and richards, and she only served one term. -- ann richard and she only served one term. >> texas is a tough state for us. >> will it change in 2014? >> it is hard to know. when we had 34 opportunities, we try to win each and every one of them. the way you do that is by recruiting strong candidates. you will see is focusing really hard on trying to recruit as many strong candidates as we can. we are not writing off the great state of texas. >> let me talk about one other state, and the state of arkansas. he is finishing up the second term. i would argue that no state has changed more in the past four years in arkansas. how you propose to keep a democrat holding that governorship? >> we would love to get arkansas in 2014. we have a long tradition in arkansas. one of the great presidents, bill clinton. we work very hard down there. tooannot get t specific of our prospects. >> some governors have been lobbying the white house